There are two guys on the team who have broken a 4 minute mile with relative ease. There are two others who probably will do the same this year.
Methinks you’re overstating this. Only four American high schoolers have ever run sub-4:00 miles—Jim Ryun (yes, the wingnut KS Congressman), Tim Danielson, Marty Liquori, and Alan Webb. The first three did it between 1965 and 1967, so Webb’s 2001 feat was the first time in nearly 35 years.
The best time ever run at the Massachusetts all-state meet is 4:05.14, and the 2005 winner just barely beat 4:20 (see Event 25)
Are you sure the accomplishment you’re talking about isn’t running 4:00 in the 1500m? That’s still very unlikely—in 2005, only 34 high schoolers in the country did it—but at least it’s conceivable. There’s about 18 seconds difference between top performances in the 1500m and the mile.
My money is actually on something more like 4:30 in the mile as the barrier reached/sought by the top performers on The Lad’s team.
No, this summer the coach has been working individually with three of the seniors and one junior. Two of them (seniors) have broken 4 minutes. Not consistently, but more than once. They truly are amazingly, incredibly fast. The other two are hovering around 4:46 right now. It is within the realm of possibility that they can sheer it down pretty close to 4:00 by the end of the season. It is causing *a lot* of excitement.
This is cross country rather than track. I’m not exactly sure how the time is calculated since the courses routinely run between 2 and 3 miles. The average calculated from the time at the finish line divided by whatever the length of the course is? The boys this summer have been running a 3 mile practice course.
Sounds like Rethuglican boot camp. Everyone out for himself at the expense of others.
However, it must bring tears to your eyes to have such a thoughtful, compassionate son.
Mainly it irritates the heck out of me to think I wrote a big fat check for that kind of attitude. Shoot, who needs to pay for it when it already runs rampant in the world?
Incidentally, this is the guy the team has been trying to beat for a long time. He’s an icon here. This year may be the Coach’s dream team. Travis’s personal best in high school was 4:26 back in, I think, 1993.
On another page of that same website there is a list of top Mass runners. Supposedly 4 have joined the sub 4 miler club since 1981, the most recent in 1997. I think I’m reading that correctly. I can’t tell how some of the times were calculated. I guess there is a conversion formula used for races over 1 mile.
Ahhhh, I think I have the explanation for our differences regarding sub-4:00 milers.
You’re referring to this page, on which four MA residents (Darren Shearer, Mark Coogan, Brad Schlapak, and Jon Riley) are named as sub-4:00 milers. But they all accomplished that feat after high school. As best I can tell from the listing on that page, their best high school times were, respectively, 4:17.34, 4:20, unknown (over 4:28.6, apparently), and 4:01.03. The last was tantalizingly close to sub-4:00, but not quite there. Riley went on to become a nationally-ranked 5000m runner at Stanford, and raced in the 2004 Olympics at that distance.
One more note… on that tribute page you referenced, the middle photo is from the famed Dream Mile at Franklin Field in Philadelphia in 1971. I had the distinct pleasure of covering that event for Dartmouth’s radio station, of watching fellow New Jerseyite Marty Liquori beat Jim Ryun.
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I guess I want to amend what I said about personal bests not being the point of the team. I think they are. And the teammates celebrate it every time it happens. It gives them all a boost. It’s the idea of personal best at the expense of team cohesion that’s wrong. If everyone is in it for their own independent accomplishments, it ceases to be a real team.